Board Thread:Game Discussions/@comment-25184030-20140618223249/@comment-25055391-20140618223649

Depends on your level/armors/friends/time. If you are at lvl 80 or higher, with 3 good counter armors, 10 good friends, and enough time to get your hits in without wasting epic energy, you can do it without gems. But you have to take all of those things into consideration.